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		<title>By: ldsWebguy &#187; Redesigned LDS.org is Live!</title>
		<link>http://ldsmediatalk.com/2006/07/10/redesigned-ldsorg/comment-page-1/#comment-1049</link>
		<dc:creator>ldsWebguy &#187; Redesigned LDS.org is Live!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 00:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Launch Announcement of Beta Site [...]</description>
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		<title>By: rpyne</title>
		<link>http://ldsmediatalk.com/2006/07/10/redesigned-ldsorg/comment-page-1/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>rpyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 02:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the beta site is generally visually appealing, the top graphic is way too tall for low resolution users. Also, have you tried running the page through the w3 validator at validator.w3.org? I did and it showed 113 errors</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the beta site is generally visually appealing, the top graphic is way too tall for low resolution users. Also, have you tried running the page through the w3 validator at validator.w3.org? I did and it showed 113 errors</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew McNabb</title>
		<link>http://ldsmediatalk.com/2006/07/10/redesigned-ldsorg/comment-page-1/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew McNabb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ppenrod, I agree with your comments, but I still think that &quot;more persistence&quot; isn&#039;t the right way to address the problems with the left menu and the search child window.  It seems to me that it&#039;s much better to have child windows appear and disappear because of clicking instead of because of mouse hovering.  Increasing persistence only fixes some problems, and it can cause others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ppenrod, I agree with your comments, but I still think that &#8220;more persistence&#8221; isn&#8217;t the right way to address the problems with the left menu and the search child window.  It seems to me that it&#8217;s much better to have child windows appear and disappear because of clicking instead of because of mouse hovering.  Increasing persistence only fixes some problems, and it can cause others.</p>
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		<title>By: ldswebguy</title>
		<link>http://ldsmediatalk.com/2006/07/10/redesigned-ldsorg/comment-page-1/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>ldswebguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback, ppenrod. You have some good comments we&#039;ll consider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback, ppenrod. You have some good comments we&#8217;ll consider.</p>
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		<title>By: ppenrod</title>
		<link>http://ldsmediatalk.com/2006/07/10/redesigned-ldsorg/comment-page-1/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>ppenrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple of comments about usability on the first page:

1. The Menu to the left of the Welcome banner works fine if you are running a high resolution screen, but not so well if you are running on a laptop. Screen real estate is important and in low res conditions the Z-order presents a problem with cutting off some of the bottom menu options.

2. Selecting from the same left menu is a frstrating experience with a track point, Wacom, trackball or low res mouse (especially a sensitive wireless one). About half the time, the menu retreates or the wrong menu options are selected if the mouse is not placed &quot;just so&quot; on the screen. My suggestion is to either enlarge the sweet spot, or simplify the menu presentation so that it is self-persistent and not dependant on exacting placement of the mouse/pointing device. I have found the problem tends to aggravate at 1600x1200 and above and below 1280x1024.

3. The Search option (child window) exhibits the same behavior. I would suggest more persistence there as well.

4. Too much dead space in the corners. The navy blue is a strong color and tends to draw the eye towards it. Thus the blank is perceived to be bigger than it really is. One suggestion is to use a filler of some type (maybe a visual flourish) that satisfies the need for a visual anchor or a border and allows the viewer to move on more quickly to the portion of the page with content.

5. Is there a reason 2 search areas are presented on the page?

6. The pringing at the bottom of the page is a bit small to read in high resolution 1600x1200 and above. This is probably not a major issue for many people.

7. I like the color scheme of the page, however, I would suggest that brown text over the taupe background may need more contrast, as the smaller it gets (with higher res), the more it &quot;blends&quot; into the background till it comes close to &quot;disappearing&quot;.

This is what I found in the first 15 minutes.

I hope this feedback is helpful in some way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple of comments about usability on the first page:</p>
<p>1. The Menu to the left of the Welcome banner works fine if you are running a high resolution screen, but not so well if you are running on a laptop. Screen real estate is important and in low res conditions the Z-order presents a problem with cutting off some of the bottom menu options.</p>
<p>2. Selecting from the same left menu is a frstrating experience with a track point, Wacom, trackball or low res mouse (especially a sensitive wireless one). About half the time, the menu retreates or the wrong menu options are selected if the mouse is not placed &#8220;just so&#8221; on the screen. My suggestion is to either enlarge the sweet spot, or simplify the menu presentation so that it is self-persistent and not dependant on exacting placement of the mouse/pointing device. I have found the problem tends to aggravate at 1600&#215;1200 and above and below 1280&#215;1024.</p>
<p>3. The Search option (child window) exhibits the same behavior. I would suggest more persistence there as well.</p>
<p>4. Too much dead space in the corners. The navy blue is a strong color and tends to draw the eye towards it. Thus the blank is perceived to be bigger than it really is. One suggestion is to use a filler of some type (maybe a visual flourish) that satisfies the need for a visual anchor or a border and allows the viewer to move on more quickly to the portion of the page with content.</p>
<p>5. Is there a reason 2 search areas are presented on the page?</p>
<p>6. The pringing at the bottom of the page is a bit small to read in high resolution 1600&#215;1200 and above. This is probably not a major issue for many people.</p>
<p>7. I like the color scheme of the page, however, I would suggest that brown text over the taupe background may need more contrast, as the smaller it gets (with higher res), the more it &#8220;blends&#8221; into the background till it comes close to &#8220;disappearing&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is what I found in the first 15 minutes.</p>
<p>I hope this feedback is helpful in some way.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Haws</title>
		<link>http://ldsmediatalk.com/2006/07/10/redesigned-ldsorg/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Haws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vote for Andrew&#039;s observation.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote for Andrew&#8217;s observation.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew McNabb</title>
		<link>http://ldsmediatalk.com/2006/07/10/redesigned-ldsorg/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew McNabb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the simplified look of beta.lds.org, but there is one single problem that has kept me from being able to like the site itself.  That problem is the Dizzying Magical Popup Menu.  Let me give an example:

I hover over About the Church and it pops up a menu in a visually jarring way.  I decide I want to click on &quot;Tabernacle Choir.&quot;  If I move
my mouse in a natural way, the menu disappears by the time I get there.  It may even pop up some other menu along the way!

As far as user interfaces go, I think this is very frustrating.  If I click my mouse, I expect things to happen and so they don&#039;t surprise me.  However, when I simply move my mouse, I don&#039;t expect big things to happen (like pop up menus).  My eyes actually get a little sore when this sort of thing happens.

So, rather than just complain, I would like to propose a solution.  Go to google.com.  Right above the search bar, it has Web, Images, Video,
... More.  Click on &quot;More&quot;.  Notice that a simple but attractive menu pops up right there.  It didn&#039;t happen automatically, but it happened in
response to your click (so you can&#039;t accidentally set it off by moving your pointer to the bookmarks menu, for example).  Even better, the menu doesn&#039;t disappear automatically either.  It stays up until you either click on the intuitive little X button OR until you click anywhere else on the page, including the background.  This is really intuitive, non-jarring, and simple.

Accessibility is really important.  I&#039;ve been to many websites where a menu disappears before I can click on a selection or where I accidentally do the wrong thing because a menu magically popped up right on top of something I was about to click on.

I would love it if this problem were addressed on lds.org.

Thanks for all of your hard work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the simplified look of beta.lds.org, but there is one single problem that has kept me from being able to like the site itself.  That problem is the Dizzying Magical Popup Menu.  Let me give an example:</p>
<p>I hover over About the Church and it pops up a menu in a visually jarring way.  I decide I want to click on &#8220;Tabernacle Choir.&#8221;  If I move<br />
my mouse in a natural way, the menu disappears by the time I get there.  It may even pop up some other menu along the way!</p>
<p>As far as user interfaces go, I think this is very frustrating.  If I click my mouse, I expect things to happen and so they don&#8217;t surprise me.  However, when I simply move my mouse, I don&#8217;t expect big things to happen (like pop up menus).  My eyes actually get a little sore when this sort of thing happens.</p>
<p>So, rather than just complain, I would like to propose a solution.  Go to google.com.  Right above the search bar, it has Web, Images, Video,<br />
&#8230; More.  Click on &#8220;More&#8221;.  Notice that a simple but attractive menu pops up right there.  It didn&#8217;t happen automatically, but it happened in<br />
response to your click (so you can&#8217;t accidentally set it off by moving your pointer to the bookmarks menu, for example).  Even better, the menu doesn&#8217;t disappear automatically either.  It stays up until you either click on the intuitive little X button OR until you click anywhere else on the page, including the background.  This is really intuitive, non-jarring, and simple.</p>
<p>Accessibility is really important.  I&#8217;ve been to many websites where a menu disappears before I can click on a selection or where I accidentally do the wrong thing because a menu magically popped up right on top of something I was about to click on.</p>
<p>I would love it if this problem were addressed on lds.org.</p>
<p>Thanks for all of your hard work!</p>
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		<title>By: ldswebguy</title>
		<link>http://ldsmediatalk.com/2006/07/10/redesigned-ldsorg/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>ldswebguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &lt;a href=\&quot;http://scriptures.lds.org\&quot; target=\&quot;_blank\&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spanish scriptures&lt;/a&gt; should be online later in September, then other languages soon after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href=\"http://scriptures.lds.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel="nofollow">Spanish scriptures</a> should be online later in September, then other languages soon after that.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://ldsmediatalk.com/2006/07/10/redesigned-ldsorg/comment-page-1/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When will the non-English scriptures be on-line?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will the non-English scriptures be on-line?</p>
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		<title>By: ldswebguy</title>
		<link>http://ldsmediatalk.com/2006/07/10/redesigned-ldsorg/comment-page-1/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>ldswebguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no formal policy. To date, we haven&#039;t linked to any of these sites from a Church site, and probably never will. As good as some of these sites are, generally the Church doesn&#039;t like to be prescriptive on how a program is to be run and many of the sites for Duty to God, Scouting, Primary, etc. tend to be very prescriptive and also interpretive of the purposely basic guidelines provided by headquarters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no formal policy. To date, we haven&#8217;t linked to any of these sites from a Church site, and probably never will. As good as some of these sites are, generally the Church doesn&#8217;t like to be prescriptive on how a program is to be run and many of the sites for Duty to God, Scouting, Primary, etc. tend to be very prescriptive and also interpretive of the purposely basic guidelines provided by headquarters.</p>
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